You now have to play 3 top ranged attacks, meaning you only have 2 rounds with 10 cards and 1 round with <10 cards where you play a top melee attack that would even benefit and get the Stun. You could have 5 non-loss ice generators by level 8, And in exchange, you're playing worse cards and doing less damage. And that's at 10 cards, once you lose a single card, it's actually just impossible to even use the 3 extra Ice for Stun anymore, so now you're gaining 2 at most for most of the scenario. That leaves you only 3 rounds you can play top melee attacks, and theoretically one round you could use a bottom melee attack with Brain Leech, but this is really pushing plausibility to the limit.

Except, that's already almost impossible to make work - in order to get 4 Ice, you need to play 2 top ranged attacks.

In exchange, you could have 4 Ice producers, which would allow you to consume 3 more than you normally can with Frigid for Stun. Taking Mass Hysteria at 7 would mean not taking Corrupting Embrace, a much better card. Frigid Apparition is your highest damage attack, you don't have another other melee attack 3(5) by level 5, so you certainly shouldn't be replacing it regardless. You'd get two uses out of it rather than one because you'd definitely replace Frigid Apparition with it

The Mindthief, despite having some cards for it, is not designed to be good as a support or a tank she can be a good 'controller' or damage-dealer, with a sort of sliding scale between prioritizing the two. Some classes deal damage well, some classes support well, some classes tank well, and some classes have some crossover. Classes are inherently designed around doing different things with different degrees of success. Which you shouldn't be doing on this class. It's nice to briefly explore other build options, like 'summons don't work well because of _, but if you did want to be a rat-summoner, here is how you'd want to do it.' Gloomhaven has a million variables with different scenarios and party compositions, so a weak build in a 4-player boss fight might be strong in a 2-player escort mission I'd like more of these guides to explore varying build options rather than presenting a single path.Īnd to offer advice on when it would be useful to take them.įor example, I think both cards would be good for a tank or support build You could have 5 non-loss ice generators by level 8, so ice isn't really a problem it's bosses being immune to stun that hurts this card imo. Small nitpick about Frozen Mind - you'd get two uses out of it rather than one because you'd definitely replace Frigid Apparition with it, and your ice generation skyrockets in the next few levels (especially if you pick Mass Hysteria up at level 7). For example, I think both cards would be good for a tank or support build (Gaining shield 4/heal 8 on Mass Hysteria once might be worth it, and the bottom attack on vicious blood makes a big difference with the Feedback Loop Augment). I wish you'd actually go into the cards at level 7 I agree that it's probably not worth taking either card, but it's helpful to understand why they are weak options, and to offer advice on when it would be useful to take them. I agreed with pretty much all of this guide.

Gloomhaven mindthief guide